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Spike in Killings and Shootings

I just read a report on the NY Daily News that there have been a spike in killings and shootings in NYC.

Many New Yorkers are worried that this may be a sign that crime is on the rise, and that Bloomberg may not fit the bill to stop it, since he is more concerned about the financial aspects of the city than safety.

Here is the article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/26/2010-03-26_bloody_start_to_10_spike_in_killings__shootings_has_folks_worried.html

Makes you stop and think if this city is going to become unsafe to live in.
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
I don't know about anyone else, but rising killings and shootings in NYC is very disconcerting. It makes me think that this city is not as safe as it once was.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
That's troubling - although I want to stay on the more optimistic side for now. Perhaps this is just a series of unlucky coincidences..
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
I was talking to someone about how safe/unsafe my neighborhood is and we got to talking about how crime rates rise when the weather gets warmer. Apparently even criminals like to stay indoors during the brutal winter.
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK It does seem like that is the case... either that or we just haven't been paying attention to all the shootings and stabbings in the news until recently?
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
At least there's one good thing to say about NYC's miserable, brutal winters!
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
@hhusted this certainly is worrying especially in the light of the brutal murders which took place on Sunday night on a Brooklyn bound no.2. The crime sounds so senseless -
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/03/30/2010-03-30_sis_killer_possessed_kin_still_in_disbelief_as_cops_seek_suspect_in_subway_stab_.html
And the NYPD dont have a clue about the killer because most of the CCTVs installed in subway stations are not functioning currently. You would think the MTA would fix those first before embarking on other projects.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
That really is terrifying! I'm so used to thinking of NYC as safe....it's really surprising
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JenMac
JenMac 2yrs+
Wait, I thought everyone was so bummed about how safe and suburban New York was getting? That's all I ever hear: that it lost its grit and edge, there are no more crack addicts, blah blah. I guess, ask and you shall receive, huh?
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
Maybe the recession has something to do with it - people are getting more stressed, lonely, desperate, and isolated? Either that or just plain bad luck and timing
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@Ajadedidealist: The economy will stress people out a lot. In some cases, to commit crimes just to get money. Bad situation.
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
Does this mean we need some Giuliani-type policing back in the city?
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist and hhusted, I too think that is the case.. take the case of the recent subway murders , the guy seem to be kind of a frenzy as he stabbed his victims over an argument over a trash bag! Wonder what induces that kind of rage??
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@Uptowngirl: It is stress.Let's face it. This city is a pressure cooker. What happens when you put food in a pressure cooker and set it too high. For you girls who have one or had one, you would know the scenario. It isn't pretty. This is what's happening to people in this city. And with unemployment at an all-time high in this city, this adds more stress.
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JenMac
JenMac 2yrs+
Everyone is under stress. It kind of blows my mind what is festering in people for this to come out to the surface. People need to meditate or something. Can you imagine anything being worth sitting in prison for the rest or your life . . .let alone a trash bag?
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
He was probably, I'm guessing, either mentally ill or seriously, seriously strung out. After a couple drinks I can get pretty nutso - surely someone on heroin/LSD/etc could get into a murderous rage!
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Uraniumfish
Uraniumfish 2yrs+
It's reasonable to expect that the city's crime rate will rise now. Not only the pressure of no jobs and no money, but also the fiscal crisis the city is having. All leads to less policing, fewer public programs, etc. Remember the crack epidemic in NYC in the 80's? Pretty much direct result of the city's fiscal meltdown round about 1979/1980.
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
Count on Uraniumfish to always consider the bright side.
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
@Everyone did you hear about the mayhem that took place around Times Square and Herald Square on Sunday Night ? Random shootings .. 4 people injured and 54 arrested in the heart of the tourist district in NYC ...bizarre!!!!
http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-midtown-shootings,0,2566383.story
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
Apparently the incident that I have referred to in my previous post is an annual occurrence which is known as a ''wilding' which occurs every year at the end of the NYC auto show at the Jacob Javits Center . This event is used as an initiation by gangs to recruit new members. I have lived in NYC for over five years but this is the first time that I have ever heard about 'wilding'. Have you?
'http://longisland.newsday.com/gallery/galleries/amny/pdf/20100406.pdf
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Uraniumfish
Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@BroadwayBW Aaaawwww! Not trying to be a black cloud here, just trying to see the bigger picture. I think safety and a good working society are the direct result of government actively addressing these issues, and maintaining good programs in place.

I worry about all these municipal cutbacks in the interest of saving money are going to leave a lot of people fragile and close to the breaking point. I'm just saying, we might want to learn from history lest we repeat it...
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Uraniumfish
Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@uptowngirl Wow, never heard of wilding before either...crazy.
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@Uptowngirl: I never heard of wilding. This is the first time I heard of it.
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@uptowngirl No, never heard of it. And yes, it is pretty crazy.
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@Uraniumfish J/K, J/K!
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
At the rate things are going right now, this city may end up collapsing, if something is not done to stop the bleeding.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
That's crazy, @uptowngirl - I'd never heard of such a thing before. I guess I don't know much about gang initiation, although there was an informative article about gang culture in New Haven in the NYT the other day: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/nyregion/15towns.html Really makes you think.
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@hhusted I don't think it's as bad as all of that.
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
The fact that 50 people were arrested in midtown is very scary. I really hate when random people start talking about how "hard" their neighborhood is, and that "if you think Manhattan is scary, you don't know crap," blah blah blah. It's not like criminals can't take the train to get to any place in the city. And if I was a criminal I would probably leave my crappy neighborhood to go and rob some people who have lots of money.
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: Oh, yeah. Well I have connections with people on the inside, and this city is headed for a financial disaster if something is not done to get needed revenue to this city quickly.
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
You can hear all about the possible financial disaster if you just turn on NY1. But collapse, bleeding? What melodrama.
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DBlack
DBlack 2yrs+
Um, latest employment statistics? Headed upward, guys. Even the people at the Fed are generally pleased by an unexpected upturn lately. "Collapse" is a big word and hardly appropriate here.
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK @DBlack Seriously. Times are tough, but they ain't that tough.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
At least the airlines aren't shutting down over in NY! So it could be worse!
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist so true.. travelers all over Europe seem to be in such a bind and it doesnt help that some hotels and other services are using the disaster as a time to rake in the moolah .. read somewhere that NYC hotels actually offered 15% discount to stranded travelers- http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Ash-Weekend-NYC-Hotel-Discounts-Offered-to-Stranded-Passengers-91223794.html .. goes to prove that NYC has a heart after all...
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: This city is bleeding. Not bleeding literally, just figuratively.

@DBack: I read today that employment is rising, but so is unemployment. The number of people entering the unemployment line is going up to. I used the word collapse loosely. I stated earlier that if this city didn't turn around, it would collapse, I never said it was going to.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
Yeah, @uptowngirl. The Eurostar and P&O ferries are seriously price-gouging (or at least using their top established fares, taking advantage of stranded travelers. Not pleased or impressed, I must say)
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@hhusted HA! I didn't think you meant it LITERALLY. Jeez. And I still disagree.
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hhusted
hhusted 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: You are entitled. Frankly, I hope things do get better for NYC. It means economic recovery not just for NYC but the whole nation.
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
As goes NYC, so goes the country? Perhaps....although we are in our own little "bubble" here culturally, if not economically.
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BroadwayBK
BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist Perhaps, but this bubble is the place to be!
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ajadedidealist
ajadedidealist 2yrs+
Oh, I agree, Broadway. I'm considering moving back for half the year - we were planning to rent out our apartment when my mom moved to Tbilisi but she changed her mind; my grandma is looking after it but we're keeping it semi-empty. Means I might consider heading over there to take an internship, etc, I otherwise couldn't afford...
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Uraniumfish
Uraniumfish 2yrs+
I can't imagine living anywhere else, and I've really tried to imagine it...
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NeverSleeps
NeverSleeps 2yrs+
Me too. It's not happening.
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uptowngirl
uptowngirl 2yrs+
@Everyone yesterday I was having lunch with a bunch of people who were yammering on about how filthy NYC is and how wonderful San Francisco is .. I do understand people are entitled to their opinions and NYC is dirty and chaotic but give me always buzzing NYC over any sterile, pristine, orderly city any day.
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