New York's best/worse sex scandal?

@BroadwayBk I think Eliot Spitzer was the worst.. can't understand how his wife, Silda Spitzerwho is quite an accomplished woman herself has chosen to stand by him and whats with the Eric Massa groping male staffers scandal-http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34146.html? First Spitzer, then Hiram Monserrate's domestic abuse scandal and now Eric Massa and his bizarre antics.. NY politicos have all gone bonkers!

@Uptowngirl: That is what politics is all about. I studied a little of it in college and found that when politicians get elected office, they get swelled heads. They think now they are better than anyone else and are above the law. They think they can screw around and get away with it. Well, I guess those days of getting away with it are over. People are sick of it and the results show.

@uptowngirl I never understand why political wives hardly ever seem to opt for divorce either, especially when they so clearly should, as in this case. And from that Massa article, I love how Rep. Jason Chaffetz compares the scandal to the WWF.

Yeah, Spitzer is all the more hateable because his wife is actually likeable and interesting. Whereas the Letterman thing? It's just yucky. Letterman himself is yucky.

Have you guys been watching "The Good Wife?" It's a new TV show about a political wife in a Spitzer-esque scandal who goes back to work. Stars Julianna Marguiles, and it's very, very good...

@Uraniumfish -Letterman is so like a sleazy old man ..why in the world would these young staff members want to bed him.. a power thing? @ajadedidealist what channel does it show on?

@Ajadedidealist: Yes. I saw the show "The Good Wife" once. It was okay. @Uptowngirl: Up-and-coming actors, performers, writers, and anyone else, who want to break into show business will do just about anything to get ahead. And since Letterman was the boss, what he said is what they had to do or else. And they did not want to lose their job, since they were also making connections with others in the film industry.

@uptowngirl Yes, definitely a power thing. But unlike Bill Clinton, who lots of women were dying to bed, Letterman is not at all charming, and even a little creepy. My humble opinion.

@BroadwayBk I agree, political wives should divorce more. why should they suffer if their husbands ruin their own lives?

I wonder whether politicians cheat more than the average husband, or they just get caught more because they've got the cameras on them 24-7. I imagine actors get plenty more opportunity/temptation. But most politicians do not look like Barack Obama....

@ajadeidealist I think they cheat about as much as other men with big egos: actors, politicians, high-flyer businessmen. It's only a problem if their activities hit the news, as in Tiger Woods' case, but I think with most of these guys what they're up to is fairly well known within their private circles.

@Uraniumfish Letterman is completely creepy - he's like a hunchbacked old man. @DBlack Seriously!

@Everybody look at the spate of recent political sex scandals around the nations John Edwards, Mark Sanford everyday seems to throw up a new one.. seems like they all enjoy a little bit on the side.

@uptowngirl I wonder why that is? Do you think they all have unmanageable egos or just wives who are disappointing in the sack? Maybe both...

Are there people out there who don't cheat on each other? Has anyone ever heard of a therapist actually recommending an affair to help spice up a marriage?

@BroadwayBk don't think anybody but someone like Howard Stern would ever recommend something like that. @NeverSleeps I do think its a little bit of both also when these men get very powerful they seem to think every woman is theirs for the taking don't you think?

@BroadwayBK: I can honestly say that I never cheated on any woman I was with. Once I am with the woman, I am faithful and loyal to her. @Uptowngirl: When you are in a position of power, you think you can do anything you want. This includes cheating. In many cases politicians cheat for years. The reason they don't get caught right away is because they do a good job of hiding it. But one day a paparazzi catches them in the act, takes a photo, and sells it to the National Enquirer for a truck load of cash. Then the National Enquirer, or some other local paper sees the photo and gets their reporter to go after the story. And that is when the affair breaks out.

@uptowngirl I know, it sounds incredibly dumb, but I swear I heard it somewhere... @hhusted I was mostly being sarcastic - this world takes all kinds. If men were all cheating dogs, no one would know the difference.

I think the wives stay with their husbands because they have agendas of their own. Whether it's in regards to their kids, their own political aspirations, money, status. . . etc. It seems like a lot of the time that political marriages are contracts. Politicians are groomed pretty early on, and they need a wife who is going to fit the bill, so to speak. David Letterman is disgusting, but he's also very powerful, very very smart and pretty funny. It's not hard to understand why so many girls find that appealing . . . no matter what we think of him.

That's a good point, @Jenmac. Being a politician's wife is a full time job, and often an aspiration in and of itself...perhaps for many women, it's worth the humiliation of infidelity

@JenMac and @ajadedidealist: What politician, I think it was NJ, who was caught committing adultery and soon after her wife divorced him? I can't recall who that was? I'm not sure about that, but here is a case of a wife divorcing her husband for adultery: http://myfamilylaw.com/celebrityblog/2009/12/14/south-carolina-gov-sanfords-wife-files-for-divorce/

Oh, here it is. This is the story I was trying to recall. I believe when you read it, you'll remember the case: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338311,00.html

@hhusted I remember that scandal. His wife had no option but to divorce him since he declared that he was openly gay @JenMac yech! but he is old and wrinkly ..

I guess openly gay is where politicians' wives draw the line, then. I actually agree with JenMac; I can see why someone would sleep with someone who is both intelligent and funny, even if he is, well, old. Just turn the lights off. I think Conan is pretty hot stuff, even though he isn't the best looking. If I was his intern, well...

@BroadwayBK Conan is definitely better looking that David Letterman!

I was just reading an interview with the wronged wife of that South Carolina senator -- whatshisname. The one who went 'hiking in Appalachia.' I swear some successful men are just looking to throw it all away.

@Uraniumfish: When swelled heads turn loose, like out. It creates a tidal way. If you know what I mean.

Sanford is particularly crazy, IMO - I can understand McGreevy (the NJ governor) being gay much more than I can understand Sanford throwing his infidelities in his wife's face by practically "jumping on the couch" over his mistress

@Uraniumfish I think she just published a book about her marriage. I remember seeing an interview with her on the Today in NYC show. She is quite a nice looking woman , why would a man want to cheat on someone who looks like her ?

I'm starting to wonder if there is any such thing as a man with any sort of power who doesn't cheat. This whole Sandra Bullock thing? You can wonder why all day long . . .but, people just keep doing it. It breaks my heart.

You know women cheat, too. Obviously we are much better at it.

@Uptowngirl: It isn't often the looks that cause men to cheat. Sometimes it is lack of sex. I read a report one time that many times men cheat for the thrill of it. They think it is exciting and mysterious. To me, such men are sick in the head.

@NeverSleeps; I was actually going to make a comment about that. I have seen movies on TV where the wife was found cheating on her husband. And when the wife gave her reason, she stated her husband didn't pay any attention to her, or they didn't have a lot of sex, or some other reason. A lot of it had to do with abandonment.

@Neversleeps look what I just came across - A woman was awarded 9 million in damages from her husband's mistress. Apparently 7 states in the US recognizes the alienation of affection claims. Wonder what NY states stance is? http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=10151957&pid=4380645

@uptowngirl I can't believe that article!

I read the article. It is incredible what the law allows now. What I don't understand is why the lady didn't file for divorce a year after they separated, if she had evidence of her husband's affair. What was the purpose for staying in the marriage?

@hhusted perhaps she hoped for a reconciliation? sometimes its known to happen.

@Uptowngirl: Well, based on the husband's statement, a reconciliation wasn't going to happen, since they went to various marriage counselors and that failed. Who knows. We didn't live with them. We can only assume.

@hhusted true... and I also think the award of $9 million is just notional amount.. dont think the mistress will be able to pay up, anyway she( the mistress) is appealing the judgment.

@Uptowngirl: Actually, I read that the wife truly believes she won't get the money. She mainly wanted to file that suit to prove a point that men or women should not cheat.

@hhusted Do you honestly believe that this will be judgment will serve as a deterrent?look around there are scores of marriages in tatters, Sandra Bullock-Jesse, Tiger Woods and Elin Nordgren and these are only the famous ones!

I think cheating is despicable, but suing really is extreme! Sure, the irrational part of me wants to say "you go girl" but in reality it's a dangerous precedent to set

also, as this article points out, the "alienation of affection" law has some decidedly anti-feminist history: "Rosen said that alienation of affection claims evolved from common law under which women were considered the property of their husbands. If another man was accused of stealing his "property," a husband could sue him for damages. Today, both men and women sue under the law. "

@Uptowngirl: I know. I said she thought that, not I. You misinterpreted my post.

I always think that the person who cheated on someone they were married to should be more accountable than the person that they cheated with. I mean, that woman doesn't owe the wife anything. It's not like she forced the husband to do something he wasn't willing to do, and saying that she is responsible for "setting her sights" on a married man is really ridiculous. That guy had a choice whether to cheat or not, and the woman he did it with isn't entirely responsible for that.... Oh, and the $9 million thing is absolutely ridiculous.

@BroadwayBK: Well, despite being a man, I do agree with you. The husband had a choice to cheat or not to cheat. He wasn't forced into it. As for the money, I agree that is also an outrageous amount of money.

@BroadwayBK Word! Did no one writing that law take into account that the cheating husband is an adult responsible for his own actions? Because, seriously, do we actually believe that husband-stealing hussies exist? It's obviously up to the man to have enough discretion in how he conducts himself. It's rather a sexist view of events, no? For that reason alone the law should be struck off the books.

@Uranimfish: That are many laws that are futile and should be stricken from the books. Many of these laws are not enforced anyway. So why bother have them?

@Uraniumfish Angelina Jolie seems to wear the crown when it comes to husband stealing hussies - I think a lot of women do look at cheating situations like this and find the woman at fault. But I just think that's somewhat unfair. I personally wouldn't put myself through the agony of sleeping with a married man, but it does take two to tango... So, yeah, sue your husband, because that woman didn't make any promises to you.

Or, perhaps the law should be that the affair and the spouse are legally forced to marry each other without right to a divorce. . . .see how appealing it is then. . .

@JenMac Ha! Would anyone ever get married?

@JenMac Yeah, I can imagine that would be a major deterrent for pretty much everyone. Isn't half the fun of cheating that you don't owe the affair anything, but you're sort of tied down with promises to your partner?

So would there be any point in cheating if you aren't actually tied down to the person you are with? I mean, where's the fun if you can't really wrong someone!

I do hate how the media idolizes Branangelina - maybe I'm old-fashioned, but the infidelity angle (and constant "sticking it" to Jen) is, I think, really rather tacky... @Neversleeps - I think people cheat because they often love their spouses/partners, but also want the thrill of something new, the chance to experience something outside of the rather terrifying part of "this is one person for the rest of my lie." Not excusing that behavior at all - but it doesn't always mean the husband/wife doesnt love their current partner

I feel the exact same way about the Brangelina thing. Jennifer Aniston is beautiful is continues to get crucified while she was the only person who didn't do anything wrong. It sucks for all of those kids, but I can't wait to those two go up in flames. If you want something new, have the person put a wig on.

@JenMac I have a feeling she(Angelina) is going to set her sights on Johnny Depp next. He is her co-star in the Tourist and most women find him irresistible. Actually I think I read somewhere that his wife/partner Vanesa Paradis is already anticipating it. Sad if it does happen though...

Yeah, I want Brangelina to break up too. The fact that they're so beatific and saintly is worse, somehow - if they were ragingly hormonal amoral gorgeous people we could love-to-hate them, but their self righteousness is a bit too much. There's NO WAY they weren't sleeping together during Mr. and Mrs. Smith, no matter what they say (or probably are told to say in order to avoid being boycotted, etc) Who knew I was so invested? But how can any woman not root for the Jen figure?

@Uptowngirl: If Angelina goes after Johnny Depp, especially after she has Brad Pitt, she deserves bad things. She thinks she is hot *(*)(* because she is so rich. She's a Gemini and those types always change their mind.

I read that Vanessa Paradis is asking him to not do the movie because of the Angelina problem and the fact that she knows she and Brad aren't getting along. What a nasty hoe that lady is. I don't care how much charity work she does. It's like she's buying indulgences to excuse her for being a bad person.

I'm sorry, I do not believe that Mr. Johnny Depp can be torn away from his lovely French family. I refuse to believe it. Angelina has a pretty face, but her body looks like a big breasted spider. Ick.

@NeverSleeps I agree with you but most men seem to love her looks .. @ajadedidealist Yes, they (brad and jen) were America's golden couple and then brangelina happened... I truly wish Jen lands a great guy soon for after the breakup she seems to be bit like a loose cannon and appears to have never really gotten over the betrayal..

I don't find Angelina attractive at all, nor do I think she's a particularly good actress. Clearly I'm just defending Jen. Now Michelle Pfeiffer, on the other hand...I saw Frears's Cheri the other day (based on the Colette novel, which I love), in which she plays a successful former courtesan of a certain age with a much younger lover. And she not only has aged well, she's more beautiful than ever! And very classy

@NeverSleeps: I laughed when you said "big breasted spider." However, I have seen Angelina and she's skinny. She looks more like a snake. :) :)

I agree on the Angelina front. She looks rode hard and put away wet.

Big-breasted spider, indeed. @neversleeps. The thing is, if she was all unapologetically sexy/man-stealing/hedonistic, I'd almost have more respect for her - her "do-gooder" persona just seems so insincere and hypocritical! Although she's better than Mrs. Nazi Jesse James Tattoo Girl (no idea what her real name is). Not classy. Not classy at all

Have you guys read about / seen the exchange happening between Jesse James' hoe and Chelsea Handler? It's pretty funny. I love Chelsea Handler and this dumb skank doesn't have a prayer trying to go heads up with a comedian who has her own talk show. Pretty classic.

@JenMac Hahaha! I didn't know that expression and went to look up its origin. It comes from horses! Maybe appropriate for Angelina: http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/20/messages/570.html But I have to weigh in here and say I'd choose Angelina over Jen without thinking twice. A. may be bitchy and weird, but Jen seems so....boooring! Like all she'd talk about over dinner is her cuticles.

Aww, but she's America's Sweetheart - along with Sandra Bullock! I'm curious if far more women like Sandra/Jen than men - because they find them "relatable" and more "girl next door."

I actually find myself more often on the Angelina side of the Jen vs. Angelina debate, don't know why. Probably goes back to making the husband responsible for breaking up a marriage with infidelity rather than just blaming it all on the tramp who slept with your husband. I wouldn't say that I am a big fan of either women, though. If anything, all of this hoopla has only served to make both richer. @DBlack Jen is definitely not as pretty as Angelina, facially - few are. And Angelina is sort of...exotic looking. She's an original. I think Jen is actually kind of ugly. And I agree with you on the interesting front, too. @ajadedidealist Why is she America's Sweetheart?

And: my unsolicited opinion on Sandra Bullock is that she is a terrible actress.

@BroadwayBK I think both Angelina and Jen have their own appeal.. Jen is all golden and has your classic California surfer girl look while Angelina is dark and quite exotic looking. I do agree with you though that more than Jen or Angelina it is Brad Pitt who is at fault but nobody seems to be care about that.

Actually, folks, I don't keep track of what movie stars do. I have too busy of a schedule to follow anyone. Maybe one day I will need to keep track of them, but not right now.

@uptowngirl Exactly! People act like no one could resist Angelina, so it is her fault for seducing the married man. But it's not like she went around seducing everyone's husband.... maybe whatever they have is actually worth something, all tabloids aside.

@BroadwayBK maybe they do..

@BroadwayBK I think they do have something because no one would really make that many babies just to keep up appearances...

@Uraniumfish Haaa!! I guess a baby or seven is the best way of saying, "let's do this forever."

hhusted: All you have to do is live on Planet Earth to know who Angelina and Jennifer Aniston are! @everyone: I think Jennifer Aniston is very pretty and she has a way better bod than Angelina. She has really blue eyes and they look kind. Angelina tries to hard and she looks like a bitter old goat. I can't stand that lady. Team Jen!

You're right @uptowngirl - why are we pilloring Angie when it's Brad who left his wife? Why do the women get all the scrutiny? Let's all start hating on Brad!

Why does it seem inevitable that a thread about sex scandals in NYC would eventually turn to a Jen vs Angelina conversation? And @ajadedidealist Word.

I've already started hating on Brad. Karma's a bitch and it'll come knocking on his door eventually.

Living with Angie sounds like punishment enough, if the gossip mags are to be believed.

Brad is a jerk.

Men like Angelina because she's sexy, with those big, full lips of hers. That is the first thing I recognized when I saw her picture the first time. No wonder men go after her. But Brad is a jerk. That seems to be the common theme around Hollywood. As for Jennifer Aniston, she's pretty. But she doesn't have the thick lips. But she does have charm and elegance. That much I can say about her.