Who says Frisco?
About four weeks ago, I was in "San Francisco" and one of the guys we were working with said "So how do you find Frisco?" I said "What the hell is Frisco?". As it turns out, it's San Francisco. Ok, fine. So I started speaking to a few other people, and turns out the whole city is divided into two groups. People who love to use the word Frisco, and those who can't stand it!
What's the big deal with calling San Francisco "Frisco"?
What's the big deal with calling San Francisco "Frisco"?
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lionosh
Sep 22, 2008
AJ, no one in their normal right mind would ever use the word Frisco in fear of getting bashed. It's not very "cool" man, which is ridiculous.
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mileykelly
Sep 23, 2008
i SOOOO agree AJ. I think it's a locals thing. I've been in SF just on 9 months now and I never used Frisco moreso over fear that people will hang me!!
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advisor2008
Sep 23, 2008
Hey AJ~ a little reserach on San Francisco. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frisco lol... :)
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paulyg
Oct 18, 2008
I said it to a girl from there once just to bother her and she laughed in my face.
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AJ
Oct 20, 2008
advisor - great link to urbandictionary! I've never seen that site before, very cool.
It's interesting how so many people find it is offensive. I guess if people starting abbreviating my hometown of Melbourne to be just Melb, I wouldn't like it either.
Thanks!
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advisor2008
Oct 21, 2008
You’re welcome it was my pleasure. By the way ~ what do you think of the word ‘Philly’ for Philadelphia? It seems that folks affectionately used word this for this major city.
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advisor2008
Nov 06, 2008
Could it be that some locals thinks that "Frisco" sounds like "Crisco"??? Conversely, I discovered a website that seems to suggest that this word is no long out of favor... http://www.sfgate.com/
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lanzedom
Mar 11, 2009
only the out of towners call it frisco.... bay people call it "the city".....
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AJ
Mar 12, 2009
Thanks for the update lanzedom, when I'm back in SF next month I'll be sure to use the proper lingo!
AJ
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tanister
Apr 17, 2009
I live in Sacramento, but visit SF frequently. When I'm there, I call it "the city". When I'm not there, I call it "San Francisco". But when I type online...it's so long to spell out (and I'm lazy, haha). So if I'm talking to people in the area online, I'll call it "SF", but if I'm typing to those not around here, I'll refer to is as "Frisco".
I don't see the problem with calling it Frisco AT ALL. I live in Sacramento and everyone calls our city Sac or Sacto. ZOMG, IT'S ABBREVIATED, LET'S EVERYONE FREAK OUT!!11!1!!! HOW DARE YOU CALL US SACTO!1!!! WHERE'D TEH RAMEN GO!! I LUV RAMEN, YUM!!!11!!1
Seriously, that's just dumb. So what if they abbreviate or come up with a nickname for your city. Big deal. Get over yourselves, SF. You just look like big douchebags that have nothing to do but complain about who calls your city what.
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advisor2008
Apr 17, 2009
AJ ~ started this... LOL! It's no big deal as ‘tanister’ so eloquently stated. Ya’ll have a GREAT weekend in "the city" of FRISCO… Life is too short to worry about something this trivial after all tomorrow is not promised to anyone!!!
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jbelkin
Apr 20, 2009
People in the SF Bay Area might use it ironic or mockingly but yea, no one calls it 'Frisco. People aren't offended but you come off as some rube who's never been out of podunk. So, if you use frisco, people will probably just roll their eyes and treat you accordingly. Most people in the SF Bay Area usually just call the city, SanFran or even the full name ... people who live in SF tend to break the city down by neighborhoods.
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tanister
Apr 21, 2009
To quote jbelkin, "People aren't offended but you come off as some rube who's never been out of podunk. So, if you use frisco, people will probably just roll their eyes and treat you accordingly."
Why? Like I said before, people shorten the names of cities all the time. Why is SF so special that it shouldn't be shortened? Because it should...it's a long name and one that many people have difficulty spelling. Obviously, "SF" is the shortest thing you could possibly refer to it as, but why consider "Frisco" rude, but not "SF"?
I mean, I kinda get that it's seen as an out-of-towner kinda thing. Sac has that too. If you hear people pronounce Sacramento with the T sound, they're most likely not from the area. Locals pronounce it as if the T were silent...Sacramenno. But we don't treat people accordingly. We don't make people feel like they can't say it like that or they're going to be hung. I mean, seriously. So freaking dramatic. I guess it's fitting for that city.
And this is why I shall never live anywhere near the bay (and I don't consider 2 hours away as near, really). I couldn't handle that kind of attitdue 24/7. I'd rather live in Sac and visit SF yearly like I do now.
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AJ
Apr 23, 2009
tanister, great conversation!!
I have to point out that I laughed at the shortening of Sacramento to just Sac (needs no explanation)...sorry bout that. Back onto Frisco, I think it's just the way it sounds? A bit wanky?
I guess this raises a bigger issue on what the people in SF, San Francisco, Frisco or "The City" are actually like? I know there is a minor stereotype that SF people think they are a bit above everyone else? (NOT MY OPINION!!) Anyone else agree with this?
AJ
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4sho
Apr 24, 2009
I have actually found that people who move from other places to San Franscisco, are the ones that think they are above everyone else just cuz now they live in "San Fran" or "DA SCO" a couple more for ya.
I get the occasional roll of the eyes when I tell people where I am from. They presume I come with SF SMUG( there was hilarious Southpark epsisode where the smugness of George Cloney was going to collide with the Smugness of SF and cause a disaster)
Folks who grew up here or have been here for years don't really care what you call it. Its the newbs and hipsters that get annoyed. This city seems to welcome ya regardless.
What ever you call it, glad you came and come back soon......
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AJ
Jun 11, 2009
Hi 4sho,
I watched that episode of South Park on TV last night, it was hilarious...although quite the insult to people in SF implying they love the smell of their own farts!
I love San Francisco as many MANY people do, can't wait to be back over there soon (although I'll be skipping the Tenderloin area, it gives me the creeps)
AJ
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advisor2008
Jun 12, 2009
Regarding San Francisco...
FYI ~ http://www.sfgate.com/neighborhoods/sf/tenderloin/ [note:} the name of the paper...
Enjoy the weekend!!!
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AJ
Jun 18, 2009
yes rascleattop, the most obvious has escaped us all! I always call it San Fran. That normally doesn't offed anyone when I am in town.
AJ
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ucbears
Aug 17, 2009
I live in SF. Locals do not use "frisco" or "san fran." I've been here 10 years and don't know the history, but I do know "frisco" is more despised than "san fran." We call it, simply, "The City" or refer to a particular neighborhood to be more specific, like "the Castro" or "Potrero" or "the Mission." If you use "frisco" or "san fran," it's no big deal, it just indicates that you are from out of town. If you had to shorten it and didn't want to use "the City" for some reason, I guess "SF" would probably be a more acceptable back-up.
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SFMan123123
Sep 22, 2009
Why not simply use "CISCO" and get some sponsorship money for doing that?...
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AndyBell
Oct 04, 2009
I don't think there is any big deal in that. People just use words that make them comfortable and I think it is all up to personal choice at the end of the day.
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JackSawyer
Jan 13, 2010
Totally agree with AndyBell, it doesn't mater what you call it. I've never had anyone look weird at me for calling it SF, SanFran or FRISCO.
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DocFrankenstein
Jun 20, 2010
I hear that the SF Angels call themselves the "Frisco Hell's Angels." Probably as yet another attempt to annoy the general populace.
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StephSF
Jul 08, 2010
I was vehemently told to stop calling it "San Fran" when I moved here, although it sounds like visitors take great pleasure in assigning this particular abbreviation. I have since stopped any and all friends from using this language, and generally refer to it as "the city" when I am here. If I am out of town, I refer to it as San Francisco, and in writing I'll just type "SF" (although I would never verbally refer to it as the latter).
Sacramento is another story...in my opinion, "Sac" is a completely and utterly appropriate reference to the city.
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FlowerGirl
Jul 08, 2010
@StephSF: I've noticed that "Sac" is almost a term of affection among my friends who went to Davis. It implies that they really know their way around the capitol. It's the exact reverse of "San Fran" or especially "Frisco," which for whatever reason sounds to Bay Area natives like nails on a blackboard. Thank you for spreading the word.
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aircoopdog
Oct 12, 2010
Otis Redding called it Frisco; I'm calling it Frisco.....No one has to like it but, they have to deal with it.....peace!
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Lisaloha
Apr 15, 2011
My mom is from there, but we have lived in Hawaii for over 40 years. She still bristles when she hears "Frisco", I think the problem is not so much that it's an abbreviation, so much as the parts of the word aren't even together in the proper name. (San) Fr(anc)isco = Frisco. Whereas, "Philly" is at least reminiscent of "Phill(adelphia)" and "Sac" is from "Sac(ramento). As for people not saying the T in the latter, it is probably a local thing, but I always pronounce it, mostly because I also speak Spanish and the T is pronounced in the root language (even when I say it without proper Spanish pronunciation).
If my town (Kane`ohe) were to be abbreviated like SF is, it would be "Keohe" or "Nehe" or something completely different than the two words which make up the word (bamboo man), and that would just be wrong. Some of us refer to it as "K-town", but only on our bumper stickers! We don't say it or write it, per se, mostly because so many of our towns begin with "K" that it would only lead to confusion.
I can see why San Franciscans are opposed to Frisco.
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userzero55
Jun 27, 2011
No native San Franciscan says "Frisco." Its just what out-of-towners think you say when you're on the inside. It's the same as "Cali" for California- you can tell they are foreign as soon as they open their mouths.
-cj
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SFSinner
May 08, 2012
Frisco is Slang for the city, aka 415, sfc, the sco, and sucks free
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